Emigration Is Not a Game of Cards


thanks for your blog. 

as i dont have experience under the SOL, i was considering doing a cert/diploma in automotive while doing part-time work.

after getting the diploma, i will then apply for the temporary graduate visa to work in a related field so as to apply for PR later.

i would also be bringing my wife and p1 son.

do you think this is feasible?


bk dump

Hi bk dump,

Remember the Rule #1 in asingaporeanson.blogspot.com - The author is not responsible for your fucked ups. Although the author will never laugh at anyone's misfortunes, he will be likely to laugh at your stupidities.

You have provided me virtually no information to answer your question and an over-simplified plan with no concrete planning (as it appears). Emigration is not a game of cards. It is more fun than that. That being said, the majority of Singaporeans are not into this type of fun. So for your benefit I'll cater a reply to cater of the success-at-all-cost Singaporean mentality. So that you will not fail. So that you will give up before you even get started. It's for your own good. I have to do what is right, not what is popular. I'm sure most Singaporeans can resonate with this approach.

Section 1
If you wrote this email on the back of reading this post [link], go to Section 3. Otherwise, please move to Section 2.

Section 2
Please read this [link] thoroughly.

Section 3
If you are 30 years old or younger today, please read Section 4, else read Section 2.

Section 4
Wow, you married young. Are you able to fly out to Australia and start your course at least 2 months before your 31st birthday? If your answer is yes, go to Section 5. Else, please read Section X.

Section 5
Are you confident of scoring 8 or higher for all segments in the IELTS? If so, please read Section 6. Otherwise please read Section X.

Section 6
Are you able to bring along AUD$40k with you? If your answer to this question is 'Yes', please move to Section 9. If 'No', please read Section 7.

Section 7
Are you able to bring at least AUD$15k along? If 'yes' please read Section 8. Else, read Section X

Section 8
Are you willing to work at least 20 hours per week during your course work and more than 8 hours (i.e work your guts out) a day during your school vacations, including the weekends? If your answer to this question is 'Yes', please read Section 9. If not, please read Section 10.

Section 9
Are you confident of planning your course units and passing your entire course such that it ends no earlier or later a full 2 years? If yes, please read Section 11. Else please read Section X.

Section 10
Are you able to fund yourself another AUD$25k (on top of the first $15k) over the course of 2 years, say, from your wife's income or other forms of passive income? If your answer is 'Yes', please read Section 9. Else please read Section X.

Section 11
Are you willing to leave your wife and son behind for 2 years? If your answer is 'Yes', please read Section 12. Else please read Section X

Section 12
Please be reminded to be extremely prudent in your spending and be prepared to work hard in your course. Even if you are able to self fund your course without requiring to work part time, I will encourage you to take up work if you can find any, preferably related to your course work whenever possible. This does not just help you earn a bit of much needed pocket money but also helps you build up your network and open yourself up to options. If you bringing a part of your total cost and financing yourself the rest during the 2 years duration, plan your costs to avoid a situation where you do not have enough funds to proceed at any point.

Your course is your main priority. You can't fail because if you do, you will be over 32 years old by the time you complete your course and will automatically lose 5 points in the points system, lowering your chances of accumulating 60 points (although it is still possible). If your course is progressing fine, take your IELTS before your course ends to save yourself time and give yourself buffer for any delays.

Lodge your application before you turn 32. In summary: You have to:

- Complete your 2 year Diploma in Automotive (or related)
- Pray that immigration rules do not change to your disadvantage within these 2 years
- Complete IELTS, scoring at least 8 in all sections.
- Bring along enough money to fund your course, living expenses, lodging your EOI and PR application when/if invited.
- Be prepared to live under conditions you are unlikely to face in Singapore today. Eg. co-sharing house or even a room.
- Be prepared to take risk because shit happens.
- Do your homework. (reading this isn't doing homework)
- Lodge Subclass 189, not Subclass 489 because you don't have the time. (unless you are 28 years old or younger now)
- Remember Rule #1.

If you can do all of the above, your plan is feasible.

Section X
I don't think your plan is feasible.


  1. I am amazed at your dedication and effort .. wow :)

  2. "Are you willing to work at least 20 hours per week during your course work and more than 8 hours (i.e work your guts out) a day during your school vacations, including the weekends?"

    I know what you are trying to say but for other readers' benefit it is important to understand that on student visa, you can only work a MAXIMUM of 20 hours a week during school term, with no MAXIMUM limit on working hours during school holidays.

    However it is well known that certain employers like 7--eleven store owners exploit students on visa to pay below minimum wages

  3. Why automotive? Are you even interested in working with cars in the first place? Enjoy getting hands dirty? Handling engines, dun mind the heat? Have a healthy respect for auto mechs or do u see them as low class blue collar? Seriously, from the heart.

    1. automotive because i have some interest in it.

      i dont really see them as low class blue collar. i think it is a skill worth picking up, whether for a job or hobby.

    2. I don't think it is low class since I get expensive bills for a checkup for a cheap car, but the income goes to the garage owner, and for a reasonable wage it is hard and dirty work not for the uninitiated

  4. I don't think graduating from a cert/diploma course entitle you to apply for the graduate visa, you need to spend 25k and above per year on a degree course. Unless they changed it.

  5. thomas, do you mean : Temporary Graduate visa (subclass 485) ?


    In the six months before you apply, you must meet the Australian study requirement. You meet this requirement if you can satisfy us that you have completed one or more degrees, diplomas or trade qualifications for award by an Australian educational institution as a result of a course(s):
    that is registered on the Commonwealth Register of Institutions and Courses for Overseas Students (CRICOS).
    for which all instruction was conducted in English
    that were completed as a result of total of at least two academic years (92 weeks) study
    that were completed in a total of at least 16 calendar months
    that have been undertaken while you were in Australia as the holder of a visa authorising you to study.

  6. So sorry for the lack of information in my email, and thank you for your reply.

    i am 34 and have a small amount of savings (suffice to pay for my course and live prudently there for awhile).

    However, we intend to work there (up to the max) while i study.

    i intend to enrol in TAFE Queensland SkillsTech - Certificate IV in Automotive Mechanical Diagnosis under visa 572.

    after completion, i will then be on visa485, to chalk up the 1 year of work.

    finally will apply visa 186 / 189.

  7. You will have to think carefully about how you plan to do this.

    Certificate IV assumes you have done III



    You assume you can get a job that pays enough but it may be likely you be still taken on only as an apprentice


    You will be competing with much younger people who have apprenticeship and doing the diploma, and willing to get less pay than standard award. Plus doesn't sound like you have that much formal mech experience (playing around with a single model like your own car doesn't cut it) so you may be forced to be on a lower wages than you expect.